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Rose Choreographic School | Sadlers Wells
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We are very happy to be part of 
thorns podcast series: Dreaming Communities. It is curated by Victoria Pérez Royo and hosts invited artists who work with ‘dreaming substance.’ Here the adjective “dreaming” does not refer solely to nighttime sleep, but serves as an umbrella term for a whole series of images that have been conceived in a fragmentary and scattered way in various disciplines and practices: memories, anticipations, daydreams and night dreams, ghosts and specters, visions, and hallucinations, among others.
This episode is a conversation between Victoria Pérez Royo, curator of the series, choreographer and artist Andrea Božić and visual artist Julia Willms. They discuss research on dreams, dream logic, and the immersive virtual environments that dreams create. Andrea and Julia have collaborated since 2003, making interdisciplinary works that reorganise space, attention and perception, exploring how spectatorship, imagination, and spectacle are intertwined and embodied.
Together, they explore the nature and practice of capturing and interpreting dreams. They discuss research on dreams, dream logic, and the immersive virtual environments that dreams create.
Here you can read a full text about the series, written by Victoria.
To the Glossary Andrea donates Specufiction 
and Transduction 
.
Julia donates Dream Mapping 
and Malleability 
.
Victoria donates Dreaming Substance 
and Somatic Dreaming 
.
Find out more about Andrea, Julia and Victoria on our People page.
This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant. The series is curated by Victoria Pérez Royo with additional concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.
About the podcast series by Rose Choreographic School | Sadlers Wells London
We propose a postdisciplinary 
approach to the question of the choreographic 
and engage with artists from all practices and inclinations for whom the concept of the choreographic is a central concern. Our podcast series thorns, which can be found on our Publications page, invites a wider community of artists to speculate on pedagogy 
and the choreographic
You can listen wherever you access your podcasts, or through this website, where we host a transcript and links to resources mentioned.
